Welcome to Romance Roundtable: a feature where the editorial POME Crones gather together to discuss Romance Manga. Tomorrow, our Kickstarter for Comrade Himbo goes live!! So today, we’re celebrating by recapping Cutie and the Beast by Yuhi Azumi — the story of an extremely beefy wrestler and the teen who slides right into his DMs. Look: we may not have comrades in today’s Romance Roundtable but we’ve definitely got at least one himbo for you today. Hope you brought your suitcases because we’re About To Unpack Some Things!!!!!!
Jenny: ok! so this book! cutie and the beast!
high school student has a huge crush on her fave beefcake heel wrestler
the fantasy of parasocial relationships working out
CC: I guess dreams really do come true (if the parties involved are either inexperienced and / or dumb enough)
i gotta say, i was really excited about reading this because a: I love a My Love Story dynamic
and b: love Seven Seas
Jenny: it’s true it’s true
CC: they’ve been picking up so much great stuff lately!!!!!
was very excited to see a love story featuring an extremely beefy boy
Ashley: big same
this the entirety of my plot summary:
Jenny: i will give it this: you know it’s a genuinely good and compelling plot hurdle (the age difference – 18/29) when as a reader you are unsure you can be convinced of their relationship working out
Ashley: ahhhhhh hmmmmm! that’s an interesting way to look at it
it definitely Stressed Me Out but also, i think they treat it pretty seriously and not like in a gross flippant way
seriously not meaning not-fun, only meaning like, this is a real issue to be worked out
CC: this guy is dumb in a way that reminds me of Older Guys My Friends Dated When We Were In Our Late Teens
Jenny: my trouble is that i do not see myself rooting for them
and that’s not a feeling i’ve had w other romance we’ve read — even when it’s like “the millionaire playboy’s secret baby”; there’s usually some certainty on my part that they’ll end up together and that they more or less “should” end up together. but this time, i’m not sure that they will and i’m not sure that i want them to.
CC: he is uncomfortably reminiscent of a very specific type of guy that made me think “yeah, this guy really wouldn’t totally get why this is an issue even though everyone around them can see it”
Rachel: yeah, also, can i just say
the the only thing they really draws them together right now is that: he is beefy, she is into that
like mostly they have had no real interactions that make me think they would enjoy each other’s company??
there’s an implication that they talk on twitter occasionally
Ashley: they do talk on twitter all the time, but it’s like, pretty surface-level fan-pro dynamic
Rachel: but idk they went from “girl likes beefy guy” > “guy who girls normally ignore finds out a girl likes him” > “now they are dating”????
Ashley: HAHAHA yes, pretty much! although like… i did really like how much it nails that idea of what relationships are when you are a literal teenager
or a beefy wrestler with a teenager-level brain
like, all of this reminds me of my shortest high school relationship, where i ended up dumping a dude i had crushed on for 4 years because he said he loved me like, 5 days into “dating” after we kissed once
CC: I definitely appreciate the simplicity, honestly!!!
no destinies tied together by fate
no hammy overblown nonsense
“haha ur hot lets kiss i guess,” for this baby and this himbo? I mean sure. I buy it.
Ashley: yes exactly! the buy-in feels really genuine
Jenny: yeah maybe part of my issue is that i read too much into the title and assumed there would be some kind of fairy tale retelling, some kind of social contract that forced them into close proximity, such that their growing attraction happened in more of a vacuum? not like, at every turn, this 18yo and 29yo choose to continue pursuing a relationship
but true that there is value in simplicity
CC: despite all evidence that they should not ha ha ha
Jenny: almost certainly more realistic than being trapped in a castle
CC: look, I’m not saying I am ROOTING for them or that I endorse this may / october romance or w/e
Ashley: lol CC it’s may-december but i like this spoopy crone version
CC: oh no I mean bc he’s not like
54 or something
not QUITE at opposite poles of the calendar but still some distance between them
Ashley: ah okay
that flew right over my head lol
Rachel: as the only non-liberal arts major (is that true???) i don’t know what this is referring to but i like it
is english a liberal art
Ashley: IS ENGLISH A LIBERAL ART i mean
CC: oh yeah definitely
at least so says the university of texas hahaha
Ashley: it me:
Ashley: enhance on the lower left for my joke about how dumb i am
i mean i think twitter is the most fun when it feels like me and my friends talking about fictional gays we love
CC: I can appreciate that all their mutuals can witness this awkwardness
WE’RE ALL ONLINE DUDE
Ashley: i wouldn’t be surprised if momo’s twitter account is purely a wrestling stan account
meanwhile, our boy is using it like facebook in 2011
Rachel: “Kuga-san is….”
Ashley: LOL YES
CC: I do like his cute bunny profile background image
Ashley: srtonk but softe
Jenny: truly! him w his cute bunny!!
he is very cute
and very dumb
is he a comrade? NO; but is he a himbo: definitely
Jenny: oh for sure!!
we see here that he is just a sweet hunk. a real cutie
and later we see
Jenny: this girl loves violence (and lo what wrestling fan does not)
but there are times
Jenny: when she can be p cold and a little spoiled
a little unwilling to confront the reasonableness of the point everyone is making here (that the age gap is too much)
and she got SO ANGRY when he stopped replying to her on twitter
in a way that is believable for a teen
but also believable for a horrible little prince
and so (and again, almost certainly, this is bc i went into this expecting a fairy tale retelling), we must ask ourselves
Jenny: who is the cutie and who is the beast??
A GREAT POINT
CC: that is a VERY good question
also god the crushing horror of a teen telling you that you’re not cool
I mean they’re right but also jesus christ
Rachel: it’s the future that awaits all of us, most likely
Ashley: i mean, jenny you present an VERY strong case that momo is the beast
that moment was so crushing because she was so DEAD WRONG but 100% steely in her conviction
i would wither on the spot
CC: YES, same
it is very cool to break things off when you realize you slid into a teen’s DMs
truly that is the coolest thing you can do in that situation
way cooler than
PROPOSING TO A GIRL YOU BARELY KNOW???
Jenny: i think i literally yelled JESUS CHRIST
when i got to this part
Rachel: yes, that escalated quickly
Ashley: i just laughed lollllll
so painfully awkward
big himbo move
Jenny: it’s true
and her reaction!
was genuinely very cute and sweet
so really it was the perfect moment for this writer to remind us
Jenny: not cute!
CC: love that her dad is a fashionable beefcake tho
Rachel: i did appreciate this because it answered my age old question of “where are the parents”
RIGHT THERE, BEHIND YOU
CC: also probably like 5 years older than her boyfriend
CC: GOD this manga, answering your question Rachel
Ashley: this will clearly never happen but i think the dad and kuga should kiss
Ashley: i ALSO (non-hornily) love how fashionable the dad is because momo also rocks some pretty cute/trendy outfits and it’s like oh!! that’s where she gets it
CC: although truly
THIS CAMO HOODIE
Rachel: look, i’m going to say it
camo was a mistake
CC: taking me straight back to my youth as a teen in the early aughts
Jenny: yeah what is this, 2003?
CC: I’m sure that our boy here can remember; he is of an age with us Olds
Rachel: GOD i hadn’t thought about like, this 29 year old dating an 18 year old is like me dating a 21 year old
CC: where would you even find the energy
Jenny: can you even imagine
CC: going places in the evenings
no….. no thank u……
Rachel: drinking smirnoff ice
dear god no
Ashley: there’s a DJ on the local radio station here who i dislike because she has TOO MUCH positive energy and i recently heard her say it was her NINETEENTH birthday
i was like, oh you’re just young……… can’t relate
that’s so young……..literally a baby……. how is anyone that young…..
Jenny: oh to have the glow of youthful optimism
Rachel: i know there are people who have age gaps like this that work out and that’s great, that’s good for them
i just….. a 21 year old……
Jenny: but truly who has the energy
i guess professional wrestlers?
people who have to go out every night and give high-energy performances?
CC: get called uncool by your teenage girlfriend again see if you still have the energy
and i do have to admit that his buddy absolutely gets it
so maybe Not All Wrestlers
Ashley: i really wasn’t expecting that level of sense from the bro!!!!! good job, bro!
“What do you mean advice?” amen brother
Rachel: oh one thing i will say, and props to momo for this
i am very glad she didn’t lie about her age
i was fully prepared for that plot to unravel
Jenny: oh yeah same
i think that really contributed to what ashley was saying earlier — this book did seem to take the issue seriously, in a way that was p open and honest
CC: yeah like I was absolutely prepared for the worst in that moment
got to this panel like
CC: very grateful she disclosed and also that the story seems to realize that this is not an easy issue to waltz right by!!!
Ashley: sorry guys i was really busy making this
CC: OH NOOOOO
also getting back to our beefy boy
CC: I do appreciate that he thought she was like 25
I mean sure buddy
but you know what?
Ashley: honestly, i believe it
there’s great characterization here because this guy is HOT and VERY DUMB
Jenny: LOL very true!!
Ashley: which makes his behavior all the way up the proposal pretty much understandable / close to above reproach
it’s like, at reproach
he behaves very respectably for someone who thinks he’s into a 25-year-old fan
CC: especially for a dweeb who rarely gets approached by fans for anything other than them wanting to be suplexed???
Ashley: ah yes, my favorite part
[Editor’s Note: Ashley and Jenny both posted the screenshot above at exactly the same time]
Ashley: lolllll jenny
you’re so classy: dear readers, jenny named her screenshot “the duality of man” and i named mine “the two genders” lmao
Jenny: it was a good way to set up how our beefy boy kuga is probably p starved for the kind of tender attention and affection that his sweet heart craves
CC: is that a thing??? do wrestling fans just go up to their favorite wrestlers like “pls step on me”???
I Do NOT Know About Sports
Jenny: i gotta say that i personally would probably not ask another person to suplex me? but idk — live your truth, etc etc
i think fandom in sports IS kind of gendered — at least, in hockey, the main sport that i pay attention to; the way people relate to the fandom and the sport, i mean, with cis dudes in one corner and everyone else in the other
so i think i could probably see a male fan asking a hockey player to try to knock out a tooth, in the same way that i think i find this panel believable, that someone would volunteer for a headlock in a (presumably) not horny way
Ashley: hockey fans will definitely get in a fight with their fave on purpose
Jenny: minnesota wild
(that’s the name of a hockey team)
CC: bringing it full circle!!!
Jenny: yes! all this to say that i think it is both believable and well introduced that kuga’s fans interact with him in a specific and almost exclusively not horny way
so it’s not unbelievable that affectionate female attention would be both noticed and appreciated by him
Jenny: esp when he sees his bro get that kind of attention and affection from women all the time
what do you get when a big kind hunk is starved for affection?
proposals to teens, i guess?????
CC: if I remember anything from going to high school on an army base, that tracks
Ashley: i mean, also like, idk if i’m right on this because my experience with wrestling is mostly limited to GLOW and dream daddy, but i think kuga might be playing a heel?
he talks about accepting his role as the guy who everyone wants to get beaten up instead of kissed by
and momo’s intense murdery cheering seems to fall in that vein
and if true, it’s a nice contrast to his bunny-having softie self
Jenny: it is! it’s nice!
and the author’s note at the end
i found very charming
Jenny: and i can only assume that someone whose merch is sickle-shaped is probably a bad guy?
so it’s nice to have that perspective
Ashley: AHH me too!!!! i want to support this wrestler!
also his name is evil lol
but yea… i’m all over it
Jenny: oh yes good point
nice to see this author out here making the content that they want to see in the world — big beefcakes who have to be mean on stage but who are actually just very good and dumb and kind
CC: truly!! but that brings me to my final thought, if y’all area ready
Jenny: go for it!
CC: ok well speaking of making the content u want to see in the world
i loved this manga bc it is the most lovingly depicted relationships subreddit adaptation I have ever seen
Ashley: omfggggg haha
CC: if you told me this was wholecloth lifted FROM the relationships subreddit I would believe it unquestioningly, god bless
love to read some messy nonsense in my manga and also just generally
Ashley: with kuga as OP, right? we agree on this?
Jenny: oh 100%
Ashley: i choose to believe that millennials are the youngest age group on reddit but also i can TOTALLY hear his r/relationships post in my head
CC: I mean
CC: “honestly…I don’t even know why people think that’s so bad”
ripped right from the headlines of r/relationships tbh
CC: 18 / 29 age gap is pure relationships subreddit content
Jenny: i gotta say that my final thought is similarly just this big himbo energy
and appreciation for this artist
Jenny: this was a great face
when his bro, tweeting from kuga’s account, winky face asks momo to send a photo with her fan letter
kuga sees it and this is his response
just masterfully rendered
Ashley: hahahaha yesssss
Jenny: really feel that emotion
Ashley: the art and expressions were super on point
Rachel: it was nice to see more wide representation in shoujo!!
we need 100000x more of it
but with that said, my final thoughts are
i enjoyed this story, but i still think My Love Story is just the peak of this shoujo beauty/beast dynamic
Rachel: sorry, Seven Seas
this is too pure
CC: yeah My Love Story is my favorite version of this archetype (I hope it’s an archetype anyway, bc I would love to read more stories like this!!!!!)
Rachel: if it’s not an archetype, would like to officially sign that petition please
Ashley: i know how to use change.org for frivolous purposes so this could be a reality
CC: amazing, 100% endorse
Ashley: my final thought: don’t sit so close to the TV, you’ll fry a brain cell and end up bullying an adult man into an ill-advised relationship!!!!
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